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What does it take to build a software product from scratch with no coding background, no technical co-founder, and no VC money? In this episode of Build With What You Know, I sit down with Natasha Bomba, founder of DoBetter.Love, a values-based dating platform built entirely using AI-powered no-code tools, to talk about what the solo founder journey really looks like.
Natasha spent 20+ years navigating modern dating, got frustrated with what swipe culture was doing to real connection, and decided to build the solution herself. Using Replit and ChatGPT, she went from idea to functioning beta in about a year — with 200 users already waiting to match and local venue partnerships already generating early revenue.
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0:01
Hello Natasha.
0:03
>> Good morning, good afternoon. [laughter]
0:06
>> You're the founder of um of do
0:10
better.lo, which is a local dating
0:12
website and uh it's very interesting. So
0:15
you built this website first of all
0:18
using AI tools.
0:19
>> I did. Yes.
0:21
>> It's pretty new now to build businesses
0:24
using AI tools. I'm very I'm curious
0:27
what kind of tools you used. uh how did
0:30
it help you and um like would it have
0:33
even been possible without these tools?
0:36
>> Right. Right. Um well, yes, it's
0:39
actually been amazing. Um I don't think
0:41
it would have been possible without AI.
0:44
Um I come from a learning and
0:46
development background. So I don't have
0:49
any coding experience. Um not that kind
0:52
of technical experience at all. And
0:55
originally I was thinking I'd have to go
0:57
the traditional route. I was, you know,
1:00
uh, trying to find out how much it would
1:01
cost to have a developer to to to create
1:05
the app. Um, you know, to to understand
1:08
my idea, my product and everything. Um,
1:12
and then a friend of mine, it was uh
1:14
around Easter of 2025,
1:17
had mentioned to me, "Oh, there's these
1:18
tools now that you can use like you can
1:21
just code in and talk to them in a
1:23
normal language." And um and they'll
1:27
start to develop it for you. And I was
1:29
like, "Wow, that that's amazing." And I
1:31
had done um in my regular, you know, day
1:34
job, we use co-pilot and those kind of
1:37
tools. So, it was a little bit familiar,
1:38
but I didn't realize that you could
1:40
really build from scratch to do that.
1:41
So, um I looked into a few tools. There
1:44
was Lovable, there was uh Replet. Um and
1:49
I just found, you know, Replet was sort
1:51
of the easiest. When I went on their
1:53
site, I could understand what I needed
1:54
to do and I started playing around,
1:56
jumping in, and it was amazing. Like,
1:59
it's amazing how much I've been able to
2:02
just create. Um it's it's a year now
2:05
over a year. So it's been a lot of hours
2:09
um a lot of time. It certainly doesn't
2:11
happen just like that. You still have to
2:13
do a lot of testing and invest um you
2:16
know your time, energy, and thought
2:18
processes to make sure that you know
2:21
you're thinking of every aspect because
2:23
the AI [snorts]
2:25
will build it. And it's certainly even
2:27
gotten better since I started this over
2:30
a year ago. it's it's it's already more
2:32
intelligent. It thinks beyond just what
2:36
you're asking it to do um to check that
2:39
other other aspects of the app are
2:41
connected and and uh working properly.
2:45
But you still have to do a lot of
2:47
double-checking and understanding, you
2:49
know, what your background is for your
2:51
app and did you connect the admin
2:54
section to the to the front-facing
2:56
section, all those kinds of things. Um,
2:58
but I mean I don't think it would have
3:01
been possible without AI for me to build
3:03
it because of just the costs. Um, you
3:06
know, I was looking at hundreds of
3:08
thousands of dollars with uh developers.
3:11
Um, [clears throat] I can imagine how
3:13
hard it is. I work as a consultant. So
3:15
when you try to express your idea to
3:18
somebody and then they draft it and then
3:20
you refine it and then you draft it
3:22
again like at least that that has all
3:24
been tightened up for me. there's no um
3:27
in between even though sometimes the AI
3:29
doesn't get it right too. And I I I
3:31
shout at it. I sometimes shout at it.
3:33
I've asked you three times to do it this
3:35
way and you're doing it a different way.
3:37
But that's okay. Uh we [laughter] that's
3:39
why
3:41
Yes. Um but it's still much more
3:45
efficient than I that I than I can
3:47
imagine and it seems to be working
3:49
really well. Uh so far all our beta
3:52
testings are are very solid. So, I've
3:55
been very excited about that.
3:58
>> How long would you say it took you to
4:00
build your website?
4:02
>> Um,
4:04
>> yeah. Go ahead.
4:04
>> If you think uh for example in um in in
4:08
terms of a of um a full full-time
4:12
equivalent.
4:16
>> Uh it's an interesting question. Uh only
4:19
because also our economy is not great
4:21
lately and I've I usually worked on
4:23
contracts. So, there's actually been
4:24
times where I haven't had a contract and
4:26
I've been on it full-time, full days. I
4:29
think like even in the weeks that I was
4:32
working, I was probably working on the
4:35
app uh at least 20 hours a week. Um, and
4:40
then there's been times where it's 60
4:44
hours a week, and that's that's just the
4:46
app, right? There's a lot of other
4:48
things going on. There's marketing,
4:49
there's promotional things, etc., right?
4:52
So, um you know, it's it's been very
4:55
intense. Um I also had a few students
4:58
here in Canada. Uh we can get some
5:00
students uh support for free uh
5:03
different times and I've had uh three
5:05
students at one time working for me and
5:08
doing um checks and and uh bug checks
5:11
and so forth, right? So,
5:14
[gasps and sighs]
5:15
yeah, I couldn't I [clears throat] don't
5:16
know if I could estimate I think it
5:18
might scare me if I had to estimate how
5:19
many hours I really put into this. It's
5:22
certainly been a lot.
5:26
>> And is your um website profitable
5:30
already?
5:31
>> Um it it is not. Uh one of the
5:35
challenges with uh dating apps is
5:39
because you have uh it's not like a
5:42
regular product where you can just sell
5:45
one thing to one person. You have to
5:47
have a pool of people uh to get started.
5:50
So right now um I am filling that local
5:54
pool with with people to sign up to date
5:57
and they're creating their accounts. I
5:59
have about 200 people already um waiting
6:03
to start matching. Um I have also though
6:07
there's an aspect in my app that's very
6:09
different compared to other apps which
6:12
is um I help people actually plan their
6:15
first date. So, I have the venues and
6:18
the restaurants, the cafes all in the
6:20
app itself. And I'm starting to make
6:23
that part profitable because there's a
6:25
great partnership opportunity with those
6:27
uh sites to make them um kind of labeled
6:30
as, you know, do better.lo, great date
6:33
spot. And so, that kind of sponsorship
6:36
is is starting to turn a little bit of
6:39
money, but it's going to be a little
6:40
while before we're actually profitable.
6:42
Absolutely.
6:44
Actually, thanks to AI, you can spend
6:46
more time on marketing and much less on
6:50
coding and probably testing.
6:53
>> Yes. Yes. You know, I'm I'm out there.
6:56
I'm talking to people, connecting them.
6:58
Uh even here uh in Hamilton, Ontario in
7:02
Canada, we we have a lot of little
7:04
street festivals. So I go to talk to
7:06
people and it's a great opportunity to
7:09
connect which is really you know if we
7:12
can let AI do the background tasks then
7:16
we should be able to do more connection
7:18
in per person right which which is
7:21
wonderful um that's kind of the heart of
7:24
my app as well is let's let's design
7:27
let's co-design let's use AI for the
7:30
best jobs and then uh or best roles and
7:35
then get out there and connect in person
7:37
for people for dating for all of it.
7:39
Absolutely.
7:40
>> That's actually very interesting. So you
7:42
are using artificial intelligence to get
7:45
rid of kind of time consuming tasks such
7:48
as coding and freeing up time to
7:52
actually meet real people.
7:55
>> Yeah, I guess connections.
7:57
>> Absolutely. Yeah. And and I'm glad sort
7:59
of we're we're thinking it through that
8:00
way because I mean ultimately that's
8:02
what we want, right? Um
8:05
uh I know within the dating world like
8:07
there's so much uh concern about lack of
8:11
connection and and lack of time with
8:13
people. So um if this can make it easier
8:17
even within the dating process, you
8:19
know, don't spend all this time in the
8:20
app. That's what I want people to do. I
8:22
want them to get out on a date. So let
8:24
the AI do that work. Um it actually
8:27
helps them to write their messages as
8:30
well. I've built that into the app. I've
8:33
uh you know
8:35
contacting each other making sure things
8:37
are safer that's all that's all been AI
8:39
and I mean again I wouldn't have been
8:41
able to do this like a concept and an
8:43
idea in my head but actually just being
8:45
able to pull it together with AI has
8:47
been amazing.
8:49
>> How many AI tools have you been using?
8:52
Only one or a mix?
8:55
>> Uh for building the app it's it's just
8:57
been the one. It's just been replet but
8:59
I like replet also has an agent within
9:03
it. Uh but I use a lot of chatgbt as
9:06
well. Um I use that sometimes just to
9:10
research
9:11
you know how to do things within replet
9:14
or within other sites. Uh I use it a lot
9:18
for my marketing as well. Um but I
9:21
constantly refine it so that it makes
9:23
sure it's my voice. That's where, you
9:25
know, even Chad GPT and I get into a
9:27
little um conversation back and forth.
9:29
It's like, that's not what I asked you
9:30
to do. That's not my voice, right? Um
9:33
but I'm constantly editing editing
9:35
things uh to make it sound as human as
9:39
possible. Um and uh I have used a lot of
9:42
copilot more for my other other work uh
9:46
space and area because copilot is great
9:49
when you have uh internal documentation
9:52
and you're you're creating documents.
9:54
But those would be the big ones for me.
9:57
I just, you know, I I I guess the other
9:59
part of it is with now that I've used
10:01
Chat GBT so much, it also knows me a
10:05
little bit easier. So, I don't have to
10:07
like start my conversations over from
10:09
scratch. Uh, as scary as that is
10:12
sometimes, it's also wonderful because
10:14
like it's just much more efficient. So,
10:17
to change to another tool now, I I don't
10:19
know like if I can honestly be bothered.
10:22
[laughter]
10:24
So what are the biggest challenges you
10:26
faced while building your your business?
10:32
>> Um
10:34
well I think you know in the dating
10:36
world first of all it's a pretty
10:37
saturated market.
10:39
>> Um you know I am facing some big players
10:43
that have been in the market for a long
10:45
time that have very big budgets. Um, and
10:49
then the opposite side is people want to
10:51
meet more organically in person. So,
10:54
there's a lot of things like speed
10:56
dating and stuff going on on the other
10:58
side of it. So, really
11:00
>> [snorts]
11:00
>> um trying to show people that this is an
11:03
app that is on their side and that I
11:06
want them to actually succeed in
11:09
compared to other apps where they just
11:11
want people staying on the app and
11:12
swiping and and being distracted. Um,
11:16
you know, that's a challenge, but I find
11:18
again with the human connection, as soon
11:20
as I start to talk to people and they
11:22
meet me, um, that's been, uh, you know,
11:26
they feel a lot more safe in the space
11:28
that and that I'm genuine about what I'm
11:30
talking about. Um,
11:34
it's still costly. Um, it's still very
11:37
costly as far as being an entrepreneur
11:39
and the ups and downs. and I watched,
11:42
you know, my little um my my pool of
11:45
people signing up. And I think there's
11:47
just that entrepreneurial part that you
11:50
have these days of being on a roller
11:51
coaster. Um you have these really high
11:54
days like 10 people signed up since I
11:57
went and spoke to someone and then you
12:00
go for a week and a half of no signups,
12:02
right? And it's it's you know
12:05
challenging. You need that support
12:07
people around. I need my own support
12:10
system, my own community to keep me, you
12:13
know, bolstered and and help me have
12:15
feel encouraged that this is going to go
12:17
well and all this time and money
12:20
invested will will do something great.
12:23
Um,
12:25
there is like the cold start problem of
12:27
course of trying to build that dating
12:29
pool. Like I said, like if if it was if
12:32
it was a simpler kind of a product or
12:34
something, I'd probably be fully out
12:37
there right now. um available, but just
12:40
building the dating pool, getting the
12:41
word out uh itself has been challenging,
12:44
but otherwise I think like I'm also
12:46
having a lot of fun. [snorts] Um I've
12:49
come from a really creative background.
12:51
Um I was always doing creative things. I
12:53
love it when my sort of life resume
12:56
comes together and you see all the
12:59
things you learned back in school and
13:02
things you didn't think you'd ever use
13:03
and now they're being applied, right?
13:05
So, I have a lot of fun doing all the
13:07
marketing stuff. Um, I went to school
13:10
for video editing, audio editing. So, I
13:12
just put up another video last night.
13:15
Um, and and you know, the ads are are
13:19
great and I'm looking forward to this
13:21
really being the next part of my career
13:23
in in life because I I think it'd be um
13:26
an amazing kind of step forward for me.
13:29
>> You just mentioned AD and before that
13:31
you mentioned mostly word of mouth. So
13:35
what is your marketing strategy?
13:38
>> Um so right now um the app focus on
13:43
local local places because also dating
13:47
locally uh as as much as like I've dated
13:50
uh people uh long distance and so forth
13:53
and it really hasn't worked out. So um
13:57
the local [clears throat] aspect is
13:58
quite
14:00
uh intentional to keep the the dating um
14:05
element uh healthy. Um so with that I
14:10
market quite locally. I've used you know
14:13
Instagram a lot. I've used Facebook a
14:15
lot with with various results. uh really
14:18
um focusing on organic growth right now
14:21
within those those uh spheres because
14:26
it's not always genuine what you're
14:28
getting back from from from some of
14:30
those area some of those tools. Um, but
14:34
I think
14:36
my we we have gone to events, we've
14:38
shared the word, we've we've gotten
14:40
around to local events as well just to
14:42
share the name, the brand, gone out to
14:45
share, you know, help singles connect in
14:47
in the wild. People still don't want to
14:50
do that. That's okay. You know, sign up
14:52
to the app tomorrow.
14:54
Um, so we've had some success with that.
14:56
Um, but right now I'm really excited
14:58
about the collaboration with my local
15:02
like restaurants and cafes. That's going
15:04
to be I think a really big one. Um,
15:06
because they are going to be branded uh,
15:10
you know, they'll have that kind of
15:11
sticker decal that's great for their
15:13
business and then it starts
15:15
conversation. Um, again [clears throat]
15:17
where I live here is has a very strong
15:20
entrepreneurial spirit. So, every local
15:23
business I've gone to or connections,
15:26
they're like, "Yes, we want to help you.
15:27
Yes, we're on board." People have helped
15:29
us in the past, right? Um it it's really
15:33
amazing. So, um I think [clears throat]
15:35
that that local growth is really going
15:37
to boost quickly um as we've just
15:39
started that within the last week or
15:41
two.
15:43
>> Are you going to stay focusing on your
15:45
local area?
15:47
>> Uh no, no. Um it's just for the beta
15:49
launch right now. I'll make sure that
15:51
everything is is solid. Uh then
15:54
eventually uh Toronto, which is a much
15:57
bigger um you know uh area there, but
16:02
also much more complicated uh to manage
16:05
and I need to make sure that everything
16:07
is is running really well before we go
16:09
into Toronto or other big cities within
16:12
Canada. The intent is really um a strong
16:16
launch within Canada and then going uh
16:19
North America in general and in the
16:21
world [laughter]
16:23
cuz I believe in this. I believe also in
16:26
the relationship part of it and just you
16:28
know the world needs better connection
16:31
right now. The world needs
16:34
um joy and and and more love towards
16:38
each other, right? And we can start at
16:40
these kind of small steps in order to
16:42
really make it make a change for people.
16:47
>> Exactly. And all that um using AI. So
16:51
what are your plans for the the next
16:54
updates? [clears throat]
16:56
>> Um well once we get this beta launch
16:58
going and deal with all the bugs, we'll
17:00
stay on Replet for some period of time,
17:02
but um I mean it's a web app right now.
17:06
um also have to get it into the web
17:08
stores themselves. Um um sorry, the app
17:12
stores, pardon me. And then um also
17:16
transitioning over to the cloud probably
17:19
will I'll transition over to Google
17:21
Cloud and get all everything hosted
17:23
there. Um but I need more technical
17:26
people to do that. Right now it's it's
17:27
easy for me within Replet and I think we
17:30
calculated it. it will hold to about
17:33
10,000
17:34
um users in a in a healthy manner there
17:37
and then it really starts to make sense
17:39
that it's migrated over to cloud.
17:41
[snorts]
17:42
>> When did you get your first user? You
17:44
are now 200 users.
17:47
>> Uh oo a little while ago like I think
17:51
last summer was when we started getting
17:53
some signups there. So, there's going to
17:55
be a little bit of, you know, uh, stick
17:58
in those early early signups, I'm sure.
18:01
Unless maybe they're still single. I
18:03
don't know. [laughter]
18:06
>> But I, you know, I'm waiting. I'm
18:08
waiting for that moment that it just
18:10
kind of flips over and it starts to
18:11
really like get that organic and it's
18:14
boosted up and it's just growing, you
18:16
know, by handfuls every day, for
18:19
example. So,
18:21
>> yes. And there your your marketing
18:23
efforts will uh will probably help get
18:25
some leverage.
18:26
>> Yes, absolutely. Yeah.
18:29
>> Do you have plans to increase your
18:32
digital marketing budget or efforts?
18:35
>> Absolutely. Yes. Once we start making
18:38
some money off the app or um or the
18:41
sponsorships like the venue
18:43
sponsorships,
18:44
uh
18:46
it would be great to host some bigger
18:48
events even, you know, just to bring
18:50
some people in a launch party that would
18:53
that would be fun and engaging and just
18:56
getting people to sign up. I know that
18:57
that's what I can't remember. It was uh
19:00
I think it was Tinder that did that of
19:02
having big parties with uh you know
19:06
youth or or um near the universities and
19:10
then everybody who signed up or
19:12
everybody who who downloaded the app
19:14
could come into the party basically,
19:16
right? Um so that's a really great way
19:18
to move things forward. Um yeah, it's
19:22
just a matter of budget these days
19:23
because um there is none [laughter]
19:28
>> the same and in your business.
19:30
>> Yeah, exactly.
19:33
>> And what are the uh features you are
19:35
working on currently?
19:38
>> Um [clears throat] so I'm working right
19:41
now on the kind of what I describe as a
19:45
the second half of the app. So you know
19:47
the first half is where you're setting
19:49
up your date. you go on your date. The
19:52
second half is really where you've been
19:54
on some dates and um if you know I I
19:58
mentioned I worked in learning and
19:59
development. So for me growth and
20:01
personal growth is so important. So
20:04
after people have been on multiple uh
20:07
dates, three dates um again the AI
20:11
there's a feedback process after every
20:13
after every date. Um so I've said my
20:18
values for example are good
20:20
communication
20:22
uh playfulness
20:24
um honesty those sort of things. So, the
20:28
person I went out with will say, and
20:31
it's a very simple uh because we don't
20:33
want to get into too many perhaps
20:36
unpleasant details. Uh, you know, was I
20:39
honest? Did I demonstrate some
20:41
playfulness and, you know, make a joke,
20:43
laugh, that sort of thing. Um, and, uh,
20:47
did I communicate well? Right? Um, let's
20:50
say my communication skills, they say
20:52
no, the communication wasn't great. All
20:54
I did was talk and I never asked a
20:56
question. and I never reciprocated the
20:58
conversation cuz a lot of people think
21:00
that way. They think that um you know
21:03
good communication means a lot of
21:04
talking. So um after 3 dates that
21:09
feedback uh is is synthesized
21:14
um with the AI and and with the
21:16
parameters that I've given it, you know.
21:18
Um, so we're looking for positive,
21:20
helpful feedback and I as a user would
21:23
get that in my on my dashboard saying,
21:26
"Hey, you're doing really well at these
21:28
things and you know um so forth continue
21:31
to be honest and open and playful and
21:34
and so forth, but here's some areas
21:35
where you can work on and it's giving
21:38
it's giving uh that uh unique feedback
21:41
to every single user. Um, and then we
21:44
provide some resources and support
21:47
documents. Eventually, as the app grows
21:50
as well, there'll be even more um like
21:53
right now I'm um curating those things,
21:55
but eventually we'll have coaches
21:57
available um you know, even one-on-one
22:01
sessions or group sessions, live
22:03
sessions, all of this because
22:04
relationships don't end at the date,
22:06
right? Like certainly they don't like
22:09
most dating apps, they just end at the
22:11
match, right? We're actually helping
22:12
people get through the date and then
22:14
also helping them grow. And if their
22:16
relationship is continuing to grow,
22:18
that's where I also will um have a
22:20
subscription kind of um success
22:23
subscription for people so they can
22:25
continue to grow their relationship,
22:27
have those access to those tools,
22:30
resources, etc. Um
22:34
have special dates like if they had our
22:36
first date with us, right? then that can
22:38
all be recorded in a calendar so you'll
22:41
never forget your first date with with
22:43
your partner or um you know special
22:46
other dates that come along can all all
22:48
be recorded in the app. So it's a much
22:50
more holistic process to help people
22:52
succeed with their relationship. Yeah.
22:55
>> And regarding these um post date
22:57
feedback feedback forms is it like with
23:00
a radio buttons with dropdowns or with a
23:03
[clears throat] text field?
23:06
Uh they're they're slider buttons. I
23:09
don't know if they're really radio
23:10
buttons, but it's, you know, it's
23:12
defaulted to um yes, the person did it,
23:15
and then if no, you would um you know,
23:19
turn it essentially on. Um there's also
23:22
a few other questions um that
23:27
are about safety. So, was this person
23:30
did anything happen that made you feel
23:32
uncomfortable? And that can immediately
23:34
flag an account as well. Uh any
23:37
inappropriate behaviors. So those kind
23:39
of bigger questions that we find are
23:41
really big challenges on dates. Perhaps
23:43
a person didn't even show up. So that's
23:45
immediately put in there and flagged as
23:47
well within the system. Um people get
23:50
warnings and then if they're not, you
23:53
know, going to improve their behavior
23:54
because the culture of dating has gotten
23:56
very, I'll say, sickly as well, right?
23:58
we're not always treating each other
24:00
well and and respectfully within the
24:02
dating culture at the moment. Um, and
24:05
then [clears throat] the person also has
24:06
an opportunity to um share a few
24:09
sentences uh in their in their own tone
24:12
and voice, but those will be again uh
24:15
reviewed by the AI. So nothing is word
24:18
for word and also because it's
24:20
synthesized of three dates nobody can
24:23
say oh that was the date I had yesterday
24:25
and um you know they said bad things
24:28
about me because we want to again make
24:30
sure safety is considered.
24:33
Yeah, because I'm wondering like what AI
24:36
will will consider for these reports
24:38
like will it build on open-ended
24:41
questions or on um
24:45
existing um questions with only a few
24:50
few answers possible.
24:52
>> Uh it's done a really good job. Like
24:54
I've been testing it. So I've also um
24:58
it's great. I I don't know if everybody
25:00
thinks about this, but when I was, you
25:02
know, working in learning and
25:03
development, we would have uh sandboxes
25:05
and other places in order to create our
25:07
training programs, right? So, I did the
25:09
same thing when I built this app. I
25:11
essentially created a whole sandbox on
25:12
the side where I have a bunch of test
25:14
users and you know, these are all fake
25:17
accounts. Um, and I've just asked AI to
25:19
also build those for me, like create 10
25:21
test accounts for me and and we go back
25:23
and forth with those. So, um, the actual
25:26
dating feedback I've done myself on
25:29
several test accounts and then, um, seen
25:32
those results. And I always say
25:34
something very nasty in the in the free
25:36
form because I want to actually check if
25:39
if it's really going to edit that
25:40
properly. And it's been doing a great
25:43
job. You know, it's it definitely takes
25:46
uh, you know, some some heartfelt words,
25:49
we'll put it that way. um and and make
25:52
sure that it is uh
25:56
uh construct constructive for the person
25:58
receiving it and positive. So, it's been
26:01
doing a good job with that.
26:03
>> What are they getting back? Is it a an
26:05
email, PDF, which format? It's actually
26:09
part of the app and it's actually on
26:11
your dashboard and so they can see um
26:16
let's say if you've done 10 dates and
26:18
you get one every three dates, you'd be
26:21
able to see your first, your next, and
26:23
your your most recent one. And I think
26:25
that's great because then you can also
26:27
see your own personal growth and how
26:29
things are shifting for you. a lot of
26:31
people like myself included. Um I want
26:34
to say, you know, some of this inspired
26:36
me because I was on dating apps for like
26:38
20 plus years, right? And obviously not
26:40
succeeding. Um I'm succeeding now
26:42
because I've applied some of the stuff
26:44
and also I've learned along the way of
26:47
things I knew nothing about. uh which
26:51
you know inspires me as far as the
26:53
learning like I didn't know about
26:54
attachment theory and and you know um
26:59
the avoidant the avoidant um person uh
27:03
and anxious people everything I learned
27:04
that in the last year I was like wow I
27:06
wish id known this so much sooner uh it
27:08
could have changed my life um
27:11
[clears throat]
27:12
but um
27:14
the
27:16
I think I got on a little tangent forgot
27:18
your question there what was it again.
27:20
Um,
27:22
>> the feedback format.
27:24
>> Oh, um, yes. So, within that dashboard,
27:27
you'll be able to see [laughter] all all
27:30
of it and your personal growth, right?
27:32
Because also, we get um there's a
27:35
question in there about how did you feel
27:38
on the date? You know, was there
27:39
connection? Um, was there uh maybe you
27:44
felt it, but you didn't think they felt
27:46
it or vice versa. And what's great about
27:49
that is it's going to show your personal
27:51
patterns on it. So maybe you're actually
27:53
looking for the wrong kind of person.
27:55
Maybe you think you want something, but
27:57
it's not. And and so when the AI starts
28:01
to see that, um the responses I've seen
28:03
kind of comes back with, you know, um
28:06
you know, you might want to check your
28:07
values. Are those the values you really
28:10
wanted? I changed my values when I was
28:12
going through this process of thinking,
28:13
what do I really want? I thought I
28:15
wanted this but I think this is more
28:17
important to me now because now I was,
28:20
you know, considering it and thinking
28:21
about it a little bit more.
28:24
>> Exactly. So it's very interesting. You
28:26
are using you were using AI to build uh
28:29
your application. You are using it also
28:31
to to provide some valuable feedback to
28:34
users after they have extensively used
28:37
your your products.
28:39
>> Yes. Yes. Exactly.
28:40
>> Do you have other plans? Uh I mean
28:43
besides maybe analytics, do you have
28:45
other plans on expanding your your
28:47
business and use some uh cutting edge uh
28:51
tools?
28:53
>> I think this is a lot for me right now.
28:57
[laughter]
28:57
I think I just want to get this one off
29:00
to, you know, really solid ground. Um I
29:04
think, you know, with everything you
29:06
continue to learn. We'll find out um you
29:09
know we'll get feedback from users as
29:10
well what they want to see uh features
29:14
perhaps but uh you know the core the
29:18
core element of it is there and then
29:21
once we start to really put it out there
29:23
we'll find out from people as to what
29:26
what where what area is important to
29:28
them to grow in right um yeah I I think
29:33
I've tried to think of what the biggest
29:35
challenges are I've talked to a lot of
29:37
people um and and experienced it myself
29:41
is what the biggest challenges are with
29:43
the dating world now. And uh a lot of
29:45
apps do some of this, but none that I've
29:48
seen do all of it in one spot. So, I'm
29:51
excited to put this forward.
29:54
[clears throat]
29:54
>> Okay. And um maybe um before we we
29:57
finish this conversation, what would be
29:59
your top three or five advice to anyone
30:03
starting an with a new business ID? and
30:06
uh kind of want to do the same as as you
30:10
maybe not in dating the same as me
30:13
[laughter]
30:14
>> but wants to be
30:15
>> join me if they want really want to.
30:18
>> Um yeah uh I mean number one is make
30:21
sure you have a really good um
30:25
you know community and and support
30:27
around you. Uh nobody knows everything.
30:31
We all have to be open to learning and
30:33
growing every day.
30:35
um you know and if we stay curious um
30:38
and interested uh you know we'll we'll
30:41
we'll find out exciting things and life
30:44
will be a little more exciting. Um I was
30:46
really uh lucky I found through the
30:50
local areas here innovation factory
30:52
which is um a hub for for startups and a
30:57
lot of support. Um, they list things
30:59
like funding. They list things like just
31:02
helping you with your business plan,
31:04
helping you with all those details of of
31:06
working through to make sure your idea
31:08
is solid and tested before you do spend
31:11
a lot of, you know, energy and money uh
31:14
putting it together.
31:16
Um, I guess make sure it's something
31:19
you're passionate about and going to
31:20
have fun with. Uh, I I'm having a great
31:24
time. Uh, I I love this. I just want to
31:27
keep keep doing it and not do, you know,
31:30
all the other regular day job things I
31:32
used to do. Um, so I'm I'm really
31:35
looking forward to this taking off. Um,
31:39
as well. So, I think it it does need to
31:42
be something you're you're passionate
31:43
about because there's going to be those
31:44
really hard days.
31:47
Um, yeah, and go for it. It doesn't
31:49
matter like how what your age is, how
31:52
old you are. Um, you know, I'm I don't
31:55
know. There's lots of statistics about
31:57
women and women getting their groove.
31:59
I'm 52 years old. And I started this a
32:02
year ago, right? And so, um, doesn't
32:06
matter what what stage of life you're in
32:09
if this is something you want to make a
32:11
big change. A lot of innovators, a lot
32:13
of entrepreneurs, you can look up all
32:15
kinds of great stories started quite
32:17
late in life. So, just do it. Life is
32:20
changing. I'm I'm actually very happy in
32:23
a way that I did do this because
32:26
um truthfully on the other job that I
32:29
had in learning and development it's
32:31
changed so much and actually finding
32:33
jobs and roles because of AI um I think
32:37
uh it's it's very challenging. So, you
32:40
know, this kind of ideas, it's better to
32:42
to not fear the change and move forward
32:45
a bit into what is possible and take
32:48
advantage of it if you can.
32:51
>> Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's a great
32:52
closure statement. Exactly. Especially
32:55
now with AI, it's easier than ever to
32:57
start and not uh wait for things to
33:00
happen.
33:01
>> Right. Exactly.
33:03
>> Okay. Thanks a lot, Natasha.
33:04
>> Okay. Thank you so much. It's my
33:06
pleasure.
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